JohnO
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« on: August 11, 2005, 08:37:18 am » |
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It appears that www.elecard.com is no longer in the DNS database. It disappeared sometime on August 10th, 2005. I also noticed that Moonlight, LTD appears to be selling off its intellectual property rights: http://www.moonlight.co.il/rfp.phpThis includes many DirectShow filters that I thought were Elecard's. What is going on? |
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sserg
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2005, 12:23:09 am » |
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Go to http://www.internic.netfor detailed information. Domain Name: ELECARD.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS3.HOSTFOLKS.COM Name Server: NS4.HOSTFOLKS.COM Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK Updated Date: 17-may-2005 Creation Date: 17-nov-1998 Expiration Date: 16-nov-2012 >>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:55:56 EDT <<< |
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sserg
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2005, 12:27:18 am » |
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I also noticed that Moonlight, LTD appears to be selling off its intellectual property rights: http://www.moonlight.co.il/rfp.phpThis includes many DirectShow filters that I thought were Elecard's. What is going on? That is right. Moonlight is selling IP. Also Elecard team has own developments and there is nothing strange that current development moves at the same direction. |
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JohnO
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2005, 09:30:17 am » |
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That's great, sorry about the DNS confusion. Not sure what was up on my end there.
I'm in the process of trying to convince my boss to consider licensing Elecard decoders instead of InterVideo for our next product release, but it's a tough sell when someone else appears to be selling off the intellectual property we were considering licensing. My boss would be happy to avoid Elecard due to fears of legal issues over the ownership of your intellectual property.
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JohnO
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2005, 11:02:47 am » |
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One other thing that troubles me about licensing codecs from Elecard is
that I don't really know what their relationship is with MainConcept. The only information I have found was in the press releases, but there are no details there. MainConcept also licenses MPEG2 and h.264 encoder/decoder SDKs, so, unless MainConcept and Elecard are actually the same company, MainConcept is a competitor which is a conflict of interest. Are they the same company? Is MainConcepts now selling the Elecard MPEG2 decoder and splitter in their SDK? Can you elaborate some on this?
Maybe a year or so ago I did a quick look at the MainConcept MPEG2
decoder and splitter that was licensed with Kleener. I found it to use
more CPU than the Elecard MPEG2 decoder. Also, the splitter seemed to
have problems with seeking. I don't know how old the MainConcept
decoder and splitter were, so maybe it wasn't a fair comparison.
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Olesya
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2005, 03:00:51 am » |
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Dear JohnO,
First of all, thank you for being interested in our company and products.
We will send you the letter, answering all your questions, at our earliest convenience.
Best Regards,
Olesya
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JohnO
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2005, 08:53:58 am » |
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Thank you, I look forward to reading this letter.
--Johno
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bavo.bostoen
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2006, 03:03:49 am » |
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Hallo,
I too would be interested in the exact relationship between the two companies (even now):
- is there unified development in software (there seem to be overlaps and different versions of decoders etc)?
- what about hardware: both companies announce hardware but is it the same hardware or separate developments?
- if everything stays separate: what's the point in announcing cooperation (or even merger or sth else) if there is none?
Some clarity is much needed, so we can decide for our own if resources are really being combined to speed product development & quality or not (& then it's just marketing without much added value for the customer).
Thank you for clarifying the situation.
Best regards,
Bavo Bostoen
Paragon Pictures
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posdnya
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 06:33:39 am » |
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Elecard work for Moonlight from the end of 2000 to the end of 2004, when Moonlight became bancrupt. All IP we developed during these four years belongs to Moonlight and was sold by Moonlight receiver.
Elecard and MainConcept were in process of joining for almost 16 months - from April 2005 to July 2006. But finally decided to operate as separate companies, and stop the process at the 1st of August 2006. See PR on Elecard site dated mid of January 2007.
In order to not compete we decided to work on different markets - MC develop codecs for all platforms and Elecard develop number of applications based on theese codecs.
Since MC was sold to DivX in November 2007, Elecard returned to codec development. See PR dated beginning of December 2007.
Right now Elecard is launching new line of original Elecard encoders and decoders: MPEG2, MPEG4, h.264, AAC, MP3 where only MPEG2 decoder is the original old Elecard decoder and all others are completely new.
After 20 years of codec development, with engineering team of more then 100 people it's not a big deal. Especially, when it is done the fourth time.
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bavo.bostoen
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 01:25:17 am » |
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It seems Mainconcept and Elecard are direct competitors again then.
Well, I wish you good luck.
However some remaining questions:
1. surely the 'old original' (your words) MPEG2 codec will also be updated along with the development of the new filters?
2. When do you plan on releasing a version of Converter Studio based on you newly developed inhouse codecs?
Thanks for you reply,
Bavo Bostoen
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 03:42:27 am » |
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>Well, I wish you good luck.
You may check how lucky we are. G4 codec pack outbeat MC in all senses.
>1. surely the 'old original' (your words) MPEG2 codec will also be updated along with the development of the new filters?
Yes of course. We are adding new features and fix bugs in it. But codebase remains the same.
>2. When do you plan on releasing a version of Converter Studio based on you newly developed inhouse codecs?
Converter Studio v.3.0 based on new codecs is ready.
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VelociRaptor
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2008, 02:10:31 am » |
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What news about your new G4 codecs with comparing a main wordwide famous CODECs
(Ateme, Apple, MC (DivX), VSS, Spirit and open source x.264) ?
Your CODEC will be present in the nearest testing by MSU G&M Labs ?
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Polyakov
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2009, 11:09:44 pm » |
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Your CODEC will be present in the nearest testing by MSU G&M Labs ?
Hi, VelociRaptor Yes, sure. We are in close contact with MSU labs and already sent our G4 codecs for testing. I think G4 codecs will be included in the next test. Regards, Alexey |
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